Feb 21, 2010

As for some of our WBC sisters are planning thier honeymoon getaways, they should know about this! VERY IMPORTANT! I thought that this was an interesting article I found yesterday. I'm not saying that it's all bad, but there are some RED FLAGS that we should be aware about on cruiseliners. I bet that you didn't even know about this? I know I didn't.

10 Things Your Cruise Line Won't Tell You

Updated and adapted from the book "1,001 Things They Won't Tell You: An Insider's Guide to Spending, Saving, and Living Wisely," by Jonathan Dahl and the editors of SmartMoney.

1. “Our engines break down all the time.”

In December 2009, engine problems caused the Regent’s Seven Seas Voyager to skip a scheduled port stop in Antigua, and instead head straight to San Juan for the engine to be repaired. And a propulsion issue on Carnival’s 2,124-passenger Legend ship last week affected its sailing speed, causing it to skip one of its scheduled stops.

“Engine and weather-related problems are very common,” says Ross Klein, editor of CruiseJunkie.com and author of “Paradise Lost at Sea: Rethinking Cruise Vacations.” Savvy consumers also should look for “shoulder season” departures, just before or after holidays, and off-peak rates in various regions. A record Klein maintains on his web site shows that in 2007, roughly 5% of ships that had to cancel some or all port calls did so because of engine or mechanical problems. Those problems have become less frequent, however weather-related cancellations have become more common.

As many disappointed passengers realize too late, they have little recourse. According to Ron Murphy, managing director of the Federal Maritime Commission, “Almost all tickets allow cruise lines to change itineraries at their discretion.”

2. “The weather might mean missed stops.”

Itineraries aren’t always adhered to, and if the ship skips a port for a weather-related reason, they don’t have to offer passengers a refund – and they rarely do, says Neil Gorfain, chief executive of the Cruise Outlet, a cruise-only travel agency. If the entire cruise is canceled because of the weather, passengers are entitled to a full refund. But if a hurricane changes course midcruise, remuneration is rare – you might just have to spend a little more time in the casino.

Although each cruise line addresses this issue differently, generally, if a ship misses a scheduled stop because of a mechanical problem, the line will issue some kind of onboard credit or refund. They’re usually pretty generous and “you don’t have to fight with them like you would with an airline,” says Gorfain.

3. “This ship is a health hazard—it’s just crawling with viruses.”

Cruise ships are an ideal breeding ground for germs: thousands of people in close proximity, eating food made in the same kitchen, inhabiting enclosed spaces that just a few days before housed someone else. In December 2002, the norovirus made waves in the media after a series of outbreaks on Holland America, Disney and Carnival lines, in which hundreds of passengers were infected. The problem has not disappeared. Fifteen cruise ship outbreaks of gastrointestinal illness (as defined by 3% or more of passengers having been diagnosed) were recorded by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) in 2009, down from 23 in 2007.

The CDC posts outbreaks on its web site. But this information accounts for only a portion of outbreaks worldwide because the CDC monitors only ships that include a U.S. port in their itinerary. Short of remaining ashore, the best way to stay healthy is to wash your hands frequently and thoroughly with soap and water, the CDC says.

4. “Sure, we can take care of your plane reservations, but you’d do a whole lot better on your own.”

Many cruise lines offer to book customers’ airfare, with the guarantee that – should there be a flight delay – they’ll hold the ship or fly them to the next port. But customers pay a premium for this security. Mike Cordelli, a manager of information systems in New York City, has been on a dozen cruises and says he has had the cruise line book his plane tickets about half the time, but only after checking other available fares. “You often don’t get to choose a flight, you may end up with some fairly lousy connections, stuff like that,” Cordelli says. On several occasions he has saved enough money by booking on his own to arrive in a port city a day early and spend the night in a hotel.

Booking airfare independently will be cheaper most of the time, says Gorfain. But when the cruise lines book it, they will oversee the flight. That means if there are weather delays and you miss the ship, the cruise, in tandem with the airline, will arrange to get passengers to the next port of call, he says.

5. “Think everything’s included? Think again.”

In 2009, Carnival brought in 76% of its cruise-related revenue through fares. The source of the other 24%? According to the company’s annual report, “on board and other.” If this seems like a large percentage for an industry that often claims its packages are “all inclusive,” that’s because only the basics are covered in the price of most cruises. You get most food, entertainment and coffee. You have to pay up for alcohol, merchandise, spa services and pictures. “All of these things are optional, but it’s hard not to spend money on a cruise because you are a captive audience,” says Oivind Mathisen, editor of Cruise Industry News. One way to save on booze: Most vessels advertise daily drink specials. If you’re traveling with children, find out if your ship offers "soda packages" that include unlimited soda during the cruise for about $30 for a week.

Another significant expense for passengers is tipping the staff. Many cruise lines have begun charging a fixed gratuity for restaurant and custodial service, set at an average of $10 per guest, per day. A Cruise Lines International Association spokesperson said the amount varies by cruise line, and that passengers can almost always alter the percentage on request.

6. “Our ‘gourmet’ food is anything but.”

Cruise lines are quick to tout the “fine dining” available on their ships, but in most cases the label is a misnomer. Typically, the kitchen staff knows about how many entrées will be needed, so they prepare that much in advance and finish it when the diners arrive. This is obviously different from what a fine-dining restaurant does, where the dish is cooked to order. The cruise food may not be on par with “a five-star restaurant, but it’s close to a four-star,” says Gorfain. Some large ships often provide alternative, specialty restaurants that do cook to order, but this special treatment comes at a price—one that isn’t included in the cost of the cruise.

As Douglas Ward, author of the “Berlitz Complete Guide to Cruising & Cruise Ships 2010,” explains, “It’s economics. If you don’t charge enough money for cruises, you have to lower the quality of the food and other aspects. It's a question of balance - or go out of business.” Ward says the smaller, reservations-only restaurants that cost extra on the major lines use premium ingredients, but they can charge up to an extra $30 per person per meal (plus wine). The bottom line: If eating well is important to you, be prepared to pay extra.

7. “We make money while you’re off the ship, too.”

Most cruises offer “shopping lectures” before docking in a port and hand out store maps to passengers. This service is usually provided by one of two contractors: the PPI Group and Onboard Media. Both firms promote only stores that pay for ads and pass on a portion of that revenue to the cruise lines. The stores pay an advertising fee – an arrangement disclosed to guests in writing.

Once a ship docks, passengers can either explore on their own or join a port excursion, in which they’re shepherded via bus to beaches, historic landmarks and shopping areas. Excursions, which are not included in the cost of the cruise, are a “huge moneymaker” for cruise lines, according to Klein. “One of the biggest ways you can save money is to not get drawn into [them],” he says.

Cordelli echoes the advice. Although he says excursions are sometimes helpful, especially in non- English-speaking countries, he adds that “it makes little sense to pay the cruise line four or five times what a taxi would cost you to get to a beach on St. Thomas, for example.”

8. “Our insurance? You’re better off looking elsewhere.”

When traveling abroad, comprehensive medical insurance is a must. Unfortunately, coverage varies greatly from policy to policy: Some plans cover international trips of limited length, while others (like Medicare and Medicaid) provide little or no overseas coverage. Passengers can buy supplementary insurance through their cruise line, but such policies have holes. “As soon as you step off the ship [independent of an excursion], you’re no longer covered,” Ward says. An outside policy makes more sense and is often less expensive. Ward advises a policy specifically designed for cruises and warns, “Make sure it includes emergency evacuation insurance,” in case of a serious medical problem.

Web sites like InsureMyTrip.com allow users to compare plans that are often better and cheaper than those offered by cruise lines. For example, at press time, Holland America’s medical coverage, included in one of its Cancellation Protection Plans, has a $10,000 illness and $50,000 emergency evacuation maximum, and averages around $160 per passenger (depending on the fare). By contrast, the CSA Travel Protection Plan covers trip cancellation and provides $250,000 in illness coverage and $1,000,000 in evacuation expenses for just over $70. The bottom line: It’s worth your time to shop around.

9. “Our ads might say Champagne and caviar, but expect beer and pretzels.”

New cruise lines are sprouting up all the time, many of which cater to niche interests. But be careful: You may not get the experience you expect, so it's important to choose a cruise that fits your style.

Check out dress code information on cruise line’s web site, as well as unbiased sites like Expedia and CruiseCritic. Each ship review on CruiseCritic.com has a section on dress code that lets people know how many formal outfits to bring and what the everyday attire is like onboard. Dress varies by ship and also by destination. For instance, nobody gets too dolled up in steamy French Polynesia, says a spokeswoman from CruiseCritic.com.

Don’t be too surprised if what you thought would be a sophisticated experience turns out to be a more casual one. Even high-end cruise lines are downscaling their dress code standards. Regent Seven Seas Cruises announced in October 2009 that it was revising its dress code “in favor of a less formal policy” because of guest feedback. While those guidelines call for “evening casual” during evening hours – no jeans, T-shirts or baseball caps – some cruise lines “have a hard time enforcing their own rules,” says Gorfain, because they don’t want to offend any passengers.

10. “Our ship is fancy, but don’t expect service to match.”

Although the ships themselves have gotten nicer, cutbacks in the number of staff is noticeable. With prices relatively stable over the last several years, costs for food, labor and fuel have risen. This forces cruise lines to cut expenses in some areas – and service is a common target.

Cruises are keeping their ships full but trimming staff, so don’t be surprised if your waiter is a little busier than usual. “I remember there used to always be a white-gloved steward to escort you to your cabin. You don’t see that anymore,” says Pete Peterson, a cruise travel specialist. “But in all fairness, it’s not their fault. It’s the economy.”

Read more: 10 Things Your Cruise Line Won't Tell You at SmartMoney.com


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ccranetobe's Orange wedding
Melbourne, Andorra la vella, Australia
hey great read! we are going thinking of going on a cruise around new zealand so good info to know!
's  wedding
Newnan, GA, USA
I've been on a couple of cruises and I totally agree with everything in your post. The food is terrible, there are too many people and not enough space, the extra charges for drinks etc. I personally do not like cruising and I doubt I'll ever go on another one. Big waste of money.
rodrhonda4ever's Blue wedding
Sacramento, CA, USA
Whoa, Futuremrsweikle! That's sounds like a nightmare! Now that is the first time I've heard a bummed cruise of not liking one. Which island cruise was that? I'll make sure not to do that one.

Ccranetobe I know, we haven't made it on a cruise yet, but we've came close into taking a couple, but we had babysitting issues on the falling sailing days. We will go on one for sure in 8 more years and that will be a 28 day cruise to Greece, Spain, Europe. OR the 14-day cruise to Hawaiian islands. Well worth the wait! Long vactation deserved.
's  wedding
Hayward, CA, USA
We are going on a cruise for our honeymoon :( it was my FH's choice. Everybody was telling us that everything is FREE so thats why he decided to choose this. I sent this to him as soon as i read it!

Thanks mrs. Rhonda!
deneanrae's Blue wedding
Red deer, AB, Canada
Ive been on a few cruises....a lot of these things dont ever happen or are unheard of. I can say tho that on the last cruise there was an outbreak of norwalk virus and it was the pain in the ass! hot tubs were closed, the buffet was no longer a buffet etc etc...it felt like we were being punished! Also, things were pretty expensive...you had to pay for pop and alcohol...i think a pop was like $1.75 each for a can. We drank water the whole time lol. Other then that, the cruises have been wonderfull and fun!
deneanrae's Blue wedding
Red deer, AB, Canada
p.s I would not be scared @soon2bemrsbolton, I dont think this post is suppose to say NEVER go on a cruise... everything has its disadvantages and advantages. Overall cruise experiences have been wonderfull and I loved it...you will have tons of fun and wont even notice 3/4 of this stuff. JUST HAVE FUN!
kristah's Green wedding
Surrey, BC, Canada
Cruising isn't my favourite way to travel, but I have been on a number of them now.
pop and alcohol is always pricey, but I don't drink so it's not a problem :) I know most have some sort of drink card that you can pay for at the beggining and get unlimited drinks, if you drink a lot it saves you a ton of money.

Our service has always been amazing! As has the food, at least in the dining rooms. Some of the buffets aren't very good.

Never had an issue with viruses, engine issues, and we've never had a suprise as far as dress codes go. As long as you read thr cruise info before you book, they are pretty straight forward.

Now we have been very lucky, in that not a single boat we have been on has been full! We went on A cruise up thorugh alaska, and the ship was half empty! (which was awesome, lol)
rodrhonda4ever's Blue wedding
Sacramento, CA, USA
Right Deneanrae! I wouldn't say, DON"T DO ONE! Just beware of the things in the package that you might be counting on and it's not all true. We're still going on our 28 day European cruise in the future and this has not changed my mind, just being prepared and not dissapointed. My hubby was shocked while reading this too.
ccranetobe's Orange wedding
Melbourne, Andorra la vella, Australia
I think its def pays to be prepared. We are hopefully going on a 13 day cruise and we have had friends go on this trip and they said it was worth it.

We even considered...in 5 years time going on a round the world cruise. takes 3 months, 41 countries and 104 stops, I could see it being worthwhile!
chanelbride's White wedding
Sacramento, CA, USA
Are you serious? We were just thinking about doing the Mexican Riviera Cruise for ours. Thanks for the heads up, we need to talk to our travel agent tomorrow! We'll have to verify on unlimited drinks and yes, I do plan on having lobster everyday too!

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